3 hours, 49 minutes ago

A DBA type would be especially valuable...



We should have the project generally scoped out over the next week or two.

9 hours, 59 minutes ago

We've got our SVN, Trac, etc. setup at wush so we are ready to really get rolling. IF you have any skill set for developing software or webapps please let me know.

1 week, 2 days ago

You've got a deal Vanhees.

1 week, 2 days ago

I'd love to take a look at the website once you're (partly) ready and give some positive advice.

Tommy

1 week, 2 days ago

Brenden, Neither do I!



What is your expertise?

1 week, 2 days ago

I would help but I have no expertise in what you are doing. Good luck!

1 week, 3 days ago

And yet another...



Welcome Daraddishman!

1 week, 3 days ago

Another visionary!



I would like to welcome Muon to the Berryit team.



We need more help, even if you're not a coder. We need people with experience putting something like this together and also people to help kick some ideas around.

1 week, 4 days ago

One partner joined. Thanks.



Anyone who knows XML, XUL, or Javascript be sure to join up.



We will also need a MYSQL database and someone to put the website together.



Also, even if you don't know programming we will still need partners to help brainstorm this idea into a workable BETA.

1 week, 5 days ago

http://www.cambrianh...siness/view/berryit/



I am looking for developers to help me get this business up and running. I have one developer who is interested but is tied up with other projects and won't be available for a week or so.



I have contacted two firefox extension developers whose extensions are GL and they say we may use them any way we would like.



Besides the extension we will need a database developer (MYSQL) and a website developer. I can do some of the design myself.



The two developers also said the idea is needed and that it is very doable.



If you're interested, just click to join the business.

http://www.cambrianh...siness/view/berryit/

7 hours, 43 minutes ago

On May 16, 2008, 11:33 am GordonMcDowell said:

On May 16, 2008, 10:38 am cyberdong said:

On May 14, 2008, 2:01 pm Blue said:



Hey, we'd like to post everything about this on Friday - as was the original plan - can we wait until then to answer any questions?

What time did the original plan call for?

We had a video message to the community I was working on which was deemed no-longer-appropriate (it was incorporating some older footage of Will Pate). Releasing that video wouldn't really address the questions asked of CH within the last week.



We had a talk last night about releasing a video today. Releasing it on MONDAY is the thing to do as we can cover everything at that point. We're shooting another video with MJ RIGHT NOW.



We will also post a blog (sans video) today, giving community members a very brief head's up. On Monday, there will be a press release and a push to the ch-dot-com site. We're waiting for Monday out of respect for our partners as we've previously agreed on this date.



(Yes, I had help with that last paragraph.)

on one hand thats disappointing... on the other its good for me because I am away this weekend... leaving in a hours and will have no computer to post about this... lol.



We are slave drivers making you guys work over the long weekend!

8 hours, 15 minutes ago

On May 16, 2008, 10:38 am cyberdong said:

On May 14, 2008, 2:01 pm Blue said:



Hey, we'd like to post everything about this on Friday - as was the original plan - can we wait until then to answer any questions?

What time did the original plan call for?

We had a video message to the community I was working on which was deemed no-longer-appropriate (it was incorporating some older footage of Will Pate). Releasing that video wouldn't really address the questions asked of CH within the last week.



We had a talk last night about releasing a video today. Releasing it on MONDAY is the thing to do as we can cover everything at that point. We're shooting another video with MJ RIGHT NOW.



We will also post a blog (sans video) today, giving community members a very brief head's up. On Monday, there will be a press release and a push to the ch-dot-com site. We're waiting for Monday out of respect for our partners as we've previously agreed on this date.



(Yes, I had help with that last paragraph.)

8 hours, 59 minutes ago

I heard they were devoting all assets and talents to the beekeeping software idea that won Ideawarz a few weeks ago.



A merger with Beekware...... pretty impressive move if you ask me. I bet they make out like bandits. Good for you CH.

9 hours, 9 minutes ago

On May 14, 2008, 2:01 pm Blue said:



Hey, we'd like to post everything about this on Friday - as was the original plan - can we wait until then to answer any questions?

What time did the original plan call for?

9 hours, 20 minutes ago

On May 14, 2008, 2:01 pm Blue said:



Hey, we'd like to post everything about this on Friday - as was the original plan - can we wait until then to answer any questions?

Ok, it's Friday!

1 day, 4 hours ago

Cool article. Ok, someone give me a million dollars so I can start something!

1 day, 4 hours ago

I fount this old blog post on of all places CH talking how if you are not embarrassed by your product you waited to long...



http://www.cambrianh...ess-of-your-startup/



its full of spam but thats ok...

1 day, 5 hours ago

He sounded like a knocked-up teenager practicing how to tell her father she was pregnant. (No offense to any pregnant teens) or (if you're the guy who did it).

1 day, 6 hours ago

I wonder who the target audience is for that video.... not very engaging is it?

1 day, 10 hours ago

On May 14, 2008, 9:22 pm GordonMcDowell said:

If I supply any info it just leads to more questions and will take time to respond. I'm not touching any questions until we've got "the message" for ya. At that point we'll engage in conversation and there'll be a point 'cause you'll know lots of stuff and possibly see stuff and have questions about that.



AGH. This took to long to write. SEE?!?

Sorry for the grief Gord. You know I still love you, right?

1 day, 18 hours ago

Although in my mind it is CH's fault for letting the information leak to the press, let's not explode over this, guys. Let's hear it from the source Friday --hopefully no later.



Sounds like there will be a lot of rejoice.



I sure hope they've got the legal issues worked out...



/ooper

1 day, 21 hours ago

Hey Kevin,

We're trying to stick to our plan. We've been very excited about this whole thing and would like to be fully prepared before we share it with you guys...as was the plan all along.



Your negativity is reassuringly predictable. Its nice to know somethings never change. Have a great evening.

1 day, 22 hours ago

Considering the answer to the question.

Is VenCorps going to be CH 3.0? A simple yes or no answer could suffice. I don't think it would have taken all that long to reply.

1 day, 22 hours ago

See that video? I didn't know that existed. And it was posted here WHILE I WAS WRITING MY REPLY. So I'll just close this browser window now.

1 day, 22 hours ago

We'll let you guys know as soon as possible. There's a roll-out plan we're following, and we're not bailing on that 'cause of the leak.



That I haven't been active doing everything BUT that is 'cause I'm on coder duties at the moment. Lots of us working on code. If the codes not done then the experience will be suck.



If I supply any info it just leads to more questions and will take time to respond. I'm not touching any questions until we've got "the message" for ya. At that point we'll engage in conversation and there'll be a point 'cause you'll know lots of stuff and possibly see stuff and have questions about that.



AGH. This took to long to write. SEE?!?

1 day, 22 hours ago

[YOUTUBE=zILVLePRpwg][/YOUTUBE]

1 day, 22 hours ago

#1 on google for VenCorps:

http://www.cambrianhouse.com/vencorps/' target='_blank'>http://www.cambrianhouse.com/vencorps/



which redirects to

http://demo.vencorps.com/' target='_blank'>http://demo.vencorps.com/

1 day, 22 hours ago

What's really going on would probably make it not just a sister site. Seeing how they do not want to talk about it. Like a teenage school girl that just got knocked up. If it really was just a sister site they would not have made such a fuss over a simple news leak.



Why would they leave users hanging? Why would they drop all branding from the original CH? The answer... There not, there is going to be some type of merger in between the two sites at some level. If not going on all ready.



You're bringing your hand, holding a lit match ever so close to a gasoline can. Gosh, I wonder whats going to happen next.

2 days, 3 hours ago

On May 14, 2008, 2:01 pm Blue said:



Hey, we'd like to post everything about this on Friday - as was the original plan - can we wait until then to answer any questions?

Cool. I hope the news is good.

2 days, 5 hours ago

Works for me... I saw some speculation in another thread, and thought I'd ask here. I can wait.

10 hours, 32 minutes ago

We just went with wush.net for Berryit. SVN, trac, etc. Everything we will need for $15 a month. Check it out.

2 days, 7 hours ago

Basecamp has more eye candy but not enough functionality. The project management tools for file sharing are a bit lack luster. Plus, there are costs involved with it that I think could be spent better on other things. I will consider it as an option. Are there any good alternatives?

3 days, 6 hours ago

Basecamp for communication.

3 days, 7 hours ago

Seriously, names? This thing could really use a good name.



Next, on the agenda communication. Whats the best way we can communicate about this project?

2 weeks, 4 days ago

Web site names? Think up any good short website names? PM me today.

3 weeks, 3 days ago

Humm, well from a technical stand point there would never be a need to emulate that part. Since, the key press events would only be used to test navigation of the phone.



But, to solve the problem I believe what is needed is a way to check to see if a text area is selected. Then a way to hold-off char insert until the user hits enter/space.



Except, really that type of function would probably never be needed for testing. Since the main objective is testing page navigation. Up, down, left, right, back, and access keys 0-9 are all you would need for a good emulation to check navigation of a page.

3 weeks, 4 days ago

It will be difficult to emulate a phone 'keyboard' because if someone press '2' three time you should get a c instead of an a... I don't know yet how I should solve this problem. [Well; just use the Java emulation ]



And yes, using iframes to make the virtual phone will give an other result/look then using a Java emulation.



Anyway; I got the scrolling function working (althought it will only works on pages stored on the same server as the site; else you will not have permission to change something about the page (even if you only want to scrol...))

Use 4 and 7 to scroll up and down, use 1 to load another test page: http://jelmerbv.50webs.com/chtest/demo.html

The page should work in most browsers (tested with Opera, IE7, Firefox and Safari for Windows)

3 weeks, 4 days ago

Work smarter not harder.



I agree, although I am curious to see ways it could be done with only iframes and javascript. Because I know keyboard emulation is possible but I am not sure if is treated the same as an actual key press event with iframes. It appears to have everything needed to be used for emulation for this project.



Checked my messages today, we convinced another user to join. I wonder who will be next?

3 weeks, 4 days ago

Theoretically it's possible to make the virtual phone with just iframes and JavaScript.

I've been trying some things, didn't get it to work correctly yet, but I believe all the code that you should need to get it working is out here on the internet... somewhere... (To find it and to get it working is another problem)



However, I think the Java emulation is much better and faster

That MicroEmulator looks really nice.

3 weeks, 5 days ago

Desperately looking for a name not taken by domain sharks. I have been going though all of the 3 and 4 char word names I can think. I am thinking we will have to make up our own word or mix of words to get a good domain.

Thinking of the best UI implementations. I think it would be nice to have some kind of drag and drop system. Perhaps similar to igoogle and FaceBook. Where you can just move modules around. Then have options to edit each module. Anyone have experience with using modules like this?

Need work done on code RSS feed for mobile. (Where users could add a rss feed.)

Playing around with the nice mobile emulator (Link found above in my other post.) Working on finding a nice skin and maybe molding it to size differently depending on the platform users have.

Need work done on site theme mock-up. I will have to start playing around the the color palate and image samples.

Need work on writing a nice copy thats SEO friendly.



---------

Open call, if your someone that wants to join the team speak up. (Read the first post if you would like more info)

3 weeks, 5 days ago

Hey Kevin, have we picked a name for the product/service yet?

1 month ago

Ya, I was just thinking iframes for a only a quick preview of the size dimensions. Not actual emulating, Java would be best to do that. There is a library and some tools all ready for phone emulation in Java. For example: http://www.microemu.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.microemu.org/



So, a nice skin over top with maybe some classes that mimic the specific behaviors for some of the specific device controls. Seems like a good plan.

1 month ago

Yes, that's much better/faster to create a good looking site.



Anyway; I've been thinking about the virtual phone (didn't changed anything yet to the [very small] prototype, currently only button "1" does something [which don't work in IE...]) but I think it would be better to emulate the phone with Flash or Java (I would prefer Flash), that will give a much more realistic model and will probably also will work better and faster (and it will look the same in all browsers.)



However, I think that will leave me not much to do to be honest. It doesn't make much sense if I continue with that test page if you're going to use CMS. (I don't know how much HTML you need to type by yourself, but I guess it's just a little bit or even less.) So if you've something else for me which should be done... [I'll continue with trying to make the virtual phone, but I'm afraid I will not get it working very well with iframes (and I don't have enough knowledge to try it with Flash, but I'll check if it's possible with some JavaScript before completely quitting the iframes 'experiment' )]

1 month ago

Simple little Prototype:

http://mobile.pod.0lx.net/' target='_blank'>http://mobile.pod.0lx.net/

This kind of shows how the site will work a bit. But, note I have much better GUI and tool functions I am planning out.



Name for the site: if anyone has name suggestions for the URL pm me with them. (Note: Please, do not post them in the open!)



Want to join: Anyone, else want to join the group and help out with stuff?

1 month ago

I never have used one of them so far. (Because my webhost doesn't support things like that [I don't have a professional site, so I've chosen for a free hoster] and I like it to make the complete site myself)

According to the site they are both easy to use and learn, so I don't have a preference.



P.S. The test page is using DIVs now; I'll now trying to make a demo for the digital phone. (Will also try to make one of your color scheme ideas to see how it will look)

1 month ago

Anything to say on the topic JelmerBV? What do you feel best with using Joomla or Durpal?



I don't mind if we use Joomla or Durpal its just we have to pick one an stay with it.

1 month ago

I once swore I wouldn't do another Drupal site, but I keep working with Drupal sites anyhow.



Drupal's cool, but I find it's backend tends to be pretty heavy compared to Joomla. Probably not a big issue until the site is getting hit with 10,000 page views a day. Then you need to look at colo in a serious way, just to get the hardware up there. Being a designer/themer I also find Drupal's markup exceptionally clunky and difficult to theme. Contemplates help, but still... just my 2 cents on Drupal. I will avoid the full rant.



I have less time in Joomla, but I would bet they have a similar issue.

1 month ago

I have used them both. So, here is the reasons behind my decision.



Drupal:

* Way better SEO for search sites. (Higher page rank)

* Simple interface, don't have to mess with that much. Its easier to configure.



Joomla:

* More dramatic content and Advanced features.

* More support with professional online community.



The site is going to be simple, so the smaller footprint of Drupal is a plus. So, unless there is another better reason behind using Joomla. That or if any of any of you guys is uber pro at using a particular CMS. I think it is currently the best choice for this site.

1 month ago

I suggest Joomla over Drupal, just a personal choice.

1 month ago

I have thought about it, and it would make a lot of sense for us to use a CMS. Mostly because there could be less new coding we would have to do and it would make it easier to manage.



I am thinking:

http://www.drupal.org



As far as color scheme I will have to get back to you on that. I will have to make a few color palates.



Colors that I am thinking about using:

Dark:

Background colors: Chocolate, rich darks and shades of black.

Fonts colors: golden, white, pink, blue, red, orange, silver.



Light:

Background colors: slightly off-white, green, blue, gray, orange

Fonts: pastels



Design elements make use of highlight feature of font.

11 hours, 3 minutes ago

1 day, 6 hours ago

On May 15, 2008, 12:52 pm interviewables said:But I still have to ask. What's in it for me? What do I get for coming to your site? Why would I donate?

My reasons for creating this site have to do with listening to news on a daily basis. I'm very much into politics. But, for my particular demographic, a lot of news agencies constantly try to slant the news and especially the polls to try and show that this particular demographic thinks differently than I know they really do.



I got to the point where I actually said, "Hell! I'd pay to have my true opinion recorded." And, that was the spark that started POWRUS.



What's in it for you is to be able to tell the world where you stand on every social and political issue we have and, at the same time, get to see where you are in relation to your peers. You can see how you match up against republicans, democrats, independents, blacks, whites, hispanics, catholics, jews, muslims, age, gender, income bracket, education level, and many other categories.



The media has a monopoly on our opinions because nobody can provide a means for us to present them in one place. True to human nature - when there is a big chunk of missing information, people are more than willing to speculate. And, that's exactly what is happening. The media analysts are speculating - and always in their favor - what we think. And, they use dirty tricks to pull it off.



I don't want to be TOLD by the media what people in my demographic group are supposed to think. I want to tell them what I DO think.



That's what's in if for you. The ability to let our elected officials know what's really going on with their constituents. That will help them to do their jobs of representing us much better.



Haven't you ever wondered what the entire country thinks about issues like Gay Marriage, or illegal aliens, or the Border Fence or global warming or the oil shortage or carbon footprints or Terri Schiavo? Personally, I don't care what you think. I believe that we each have a right to our own opinions. That's why the organization is not interested in changing anyone's opinion - only recording that opinion for all to see. And that is the ammunition we need to combat the slanted polls and news stories that are being used a propaganda to push political agendas down our throats!



I think that is more than just worth something - it's something that is desperately needed. It could also be used as a template for the citizens of other countries to use.

1 day, 6 hours ago

On May 15, 2008, 11:46 am DaveH said:

On May 15, 2008, 10:56 am interviewables said:



I understand the concept and I like it. However, other than donations and government grants, I don't see a way to monetize it.



Now, if you want to switch gears and be a polling site and sell the results, that would be pretty easy to do.



The way i understand the idea, you want constituents to be able to tell their representatives what they think (collectively) and then pass that information along and hopefully be governed by these decisions. Great concept. However, any politician who would do this would be committing political suicide. Only rich white middle aged men have internet connections and so everyone else would be left out in the cold.



Now, if you were just a site that collected opinions, and if you got enough hits, other media would be using your data. Just make sure your information is scientifically collected.

I can see tremendous potential with this. Is powrus.com available?

This is more for letting the crowd know what everybody thinks. Politicians can make use of the site to ask their own polls. After speaking with my own local Congressman, I learned that he does polls constantly. His staff try to call people to find out what they think. But, it's like trying to get people to do homework. Hardly anybody will stay on the phone to answer the questions. A website like POWRUS.ORG allows people to come to us and participate, rather than having someone call and intrude into their personal space.



I DO NOT agree with your assertion that only rich middle aged men have internet connections. There are more than enough people who have computers - of all ages races and income levels - to make this work. After all, it ain't just rich white guys who have FaceBook and MySpace pages.



Donations will be possible and can help pay for the site to keep going. I guess it would still have to function as a nonprofit and have fund drives. But, the primary concept must be kept in place - collect the data and give it away for free.



This is an answer to all of the slanted polls that are published each week by news agencies around the world. It will only represent the people who have answered our questionnaires - it will never presume to speak for the entire country. But, with sample sizes that are in the millions (if everything goes as planned) the results will put the tiny polls to shame.

[quote]I DO NOT agree with your assertion that only rich middle aged men have internet connections. There are more than enough people who have computers - of all ages races and income levels - to make this work. After all, it ain't just rich white guys who have FaceBook and MySpace pages.[/quote]



I was being sarcastic in that comment but that is exactly the backlash you will get from some people. That's politics!





But I still have to ask. What's in it for me? What do I get for coming to your site? Why would I donate?



I like the idea. Have you thought about making this a petition site? Anyone could come to the site, pay a small fee, have their own petition page, and then invite others to sign on. Others who care about a certain cause could sign the petitions and there would be a lot of debate going on. Those for and those against. Now I have a reason to come to the site and I just might see something come from my involvement.



Think about it.

1 day, 8 hours ago

On May 15, 2008, 10:56 am interviewables said:



I understand the concept and I like it. However, other than donations and government grants, I don't see a way to monetize it.



Now, if you want to switch gears and be a polling site and sell the results, that would be pretty easy to do.



The way i understand the idea, you want constituents to be able to tell their representatives what they think (collectively) and then pass that information along and hopefully be governed by these decisions. Great concept. However, any politician who would do this would be committing political suicide. Only rich white middle aged men have internet connections and so everyone else would be left out in the cold.



Now, if you were just a site that collected opinions, and if you got enough hits, other media would be using your data. Just make sure your information is scientifically collected.

I can see tremendous potential with this. Is powrus.com available?

This is more for letting the crowd know what everybody thinks. Politicians can make use of the site to ask their own polls. After speaking with my own local Congressman, I learned that he does polls constantly. His staff try to call people to find out what they think. But, it's like trying to get people to do homework. Hardly anybody will stay on the phone to answer the questions. A website like POWRUS.ORG allows people to come to us and participate, rather than having someone call and intrude into their personal space.



I DO NOT agree with your assertion that only rich middle aged men have internet connections. There are more than enough people who have computers - of all ages races and income levels - to make this work. After all, it ain't just rich white guys who have FaceBook and MySpace pages.



Donations will be possible and can help pay for the site to keep going. I guess it would still have to function as a nonprofit and have fund drives. But, the primary concept must be kept in place - collect the data and give it away for free.



This is an answer to all of the slanted polls that are published each week by news agencies around the world. It will only represent the people who have answered our questionnaires - it will never presume to speak for the entire country. But, with sample sizes that are in the millions (if everything goes as planned) the results will put the tiny polls to shame.

1 day, 8 hours ago

I understand the concept and I like it. However, other than donations and government grants, I don't see a way to monetize it.



Now, if you want to switch gears and be a polling site and sell the results, that would be pretty easy to do.



The way i understand the idea, you want constituents to be able to tell their representatives what they think (collectively) and then pass that information along and hopefully be governed by these decisions. Great concept. However, any politician who would do this would be committing political suicide. Only rich white middle aged men have internet connections and so everyone else would be left out in the cold.



Now, if you were just a site that collected opinions, and if you got enough hits, other media would be using your data. Just make sure your information is scientifically collected.

I can see tremendous potential with this. Is powrus.com available?

1 day, 10 hours ago

Well, I was hoping someone could help me with the questions I have about this. I'm still interested to know if a nonprofit organization can use "the crowd" as part of the business model.

2 days, 7 hours ago

Can these 2 concepts coexist in the same project? I have what I consider to be a very important idea. Possibly the most important idea I have ever had. In a nutshell, it is an opinion registry website where people can record their opinions on all current social and political issues. I call it POWURS.ORG. It stands for the People's Opinion and Will Registry of the United States. There is already a test website up at that address.







Traditional nonprofit organizations are very cumbersome to start and manage. But, I think this idea is desperately needed ASAP. It doesn't matter who you are or what you think. The goal of the organization is to record WHAT you think and to make that information available, for FREE, to anyone who wants to know. At the same time, your private information is kept private. Only the answers to questionnaires, and your demographic profile, are made available publicly.



I need this to be a nonprofit organization so that our elected officials can recommend it to their constituents. I already spoke with my local congressman, and he loves the idea. Each elected official could have his or her own home page where they can host their own questionnaires.



Also, as an example of why I came up with this idea, consider this actual polling question that I found on the web a few years ago . . .



"Do you want young women to die in back-alley abortions because the right to choose has been taken away?"



This is a slanted question if there ever was one. If a person is truly against abortion, how can they say YES to this? The only way to deal with such a question is to not answer it.



Too many polling organizations try to educate the people who are taking their polls WHILE they are answering the questions. They attempt to slant the answers in their favor. So, if a person were to answer NO to the above question, that answer would be taken as a YES for PRO CHOICE. This means that many PRO LIFE people would be tricked or embarrassed into answering the wrong way.



I don't mean to get bogged down in the actual abortion debate. I just think it is a good example of how questions can be so misleading.



The number one rule of POWRUS.ORG questionnaires is that HOW and WHY a person came to form their opinions does not matter. Only WHAT a person thinks at this moment is important. Because of this, a sizable portion of the site will be dedicated to evaluating the questions themselves to assure that they are not slanted.



So, the collective crowd will police itself and assure that no one group takes over. This means that it doesn't matter what your social or political views are. It also means that my own views do not matter. It only matters that we collect the true opinions of the crowd.



Polling organizations collect their answers in secret and sell the data to the media. POWRUS.ORG will be the, if you will excuse the pun, POLAR OPPOSITE of such organizations. It will require people to work on the questions, produce the answers, support the organization, and we will GIVE the data away for free.



Too many people want to tell us what we think simply because there is no available pool of data that contains that information. This organization will fill that order. We will produce POWRSTATS on all questionnaires breaking down the data by all demographic categories and regions of the country.



But, what I'm not sure about is how such a website could support itself. Nonprofits do not permit advertising, so banner ads would not work. If we asked for donations, that could work, but it doesn't sound like wikinomics.



What do you guys think?

1 day, 8 hours ago

Not much knews in todays paper. Found a couple of little tidbits, but much of it already showed up in my reader.

2 days, 1 hour ago

Maybe we should all have scopes...or maybe just beer!

2 days, 1 hour ago

On May 14, 2008, 4:10 pm cyberdong said:



Hey, I resent that. I have a rifle with a sniper scope, AND I'm a genius!

But Dong, you're best moments aren't with the rifle and the sniper scope. It's with a beer in your hand and midi files playing in the background.

2 days, 3 hours ago

I just had flash backs of the late 90's and it wasn't pleasant.



Maybe they'll specialise in selling toothbrushes next.

2 days, 3 hours ago

On May 14, 2008, 3:43 pm interviewables said:



I just don't know about those people. The guy on the roof looked like he could have just as easily had a rifle with a sniper scope as a business plan. Maybe he's a genius. Time will tell.

Hey, I resent that. I have a rifle with a sniper scope, AND I'm a genius!

2 days, 4 hours ago

I just don't know about those people. The guy on the roof looked like he could have just as easily had a rifle with a sniper scope as a business plan. Maybe he's a genius. Time will tell.

2 days, 4 hours ago

i do not like the yesterdays news... the next is great for up to the min news... not like a newspapers (keep in mind I did marketing for a newspaper for 3 years)

2 days, 5 hours ago

Dude is certifiable. What's funny is, people like this get one million dollars to blow in 7 weeks and then just say screw it!



On top of that, their model is to take yesterday's news and make it today's hot story, sell ads, and split money. If that works, I've got dibs on the light bulb...

2 days, 5 hours ago

Kluster has changed focus from being a business incubator to a news company similar to digg. Check out the whole story.



Brenden

CrowdsourceThis.com

1 day, 9 hours ago

Thanks for the extra GPs.

1 day, 23 hours ago

Just a heads up to all of the people that have all ready voted on all of the ideas. My idea is still out there since it was added in the mix a bit later do to some technical difficulty's with the site.



So here it is comment, talk collaborate:

http://www.cambrianh...er/ideas-id/1TtVdjN/

1 day, 12 hours ago

On May 14, 2008, 10:07 pm Kevin_Cox said:



My guess is that you did not express the idea properly. (That is if it did not win the first time around.) Proof of concept and prototyping score big points in my book.



What I would do is actually make a kit if you wanted to make it commercial. With instructions on how to build it. The instructions are free, buying the kit with all the parts optional.



That or somehow split it into easy to assemble sections that are easy to ship. So the end user has to do only minimal work. AKA Doing it Ikea style.

Actually, I just submitted the idea for the very first time and it won't be up for voting until next week.



I had thought about creating a kit for people to buy. But, that kind of defeats the whole purpose of the design. To make it worth my while, or anyone's for that matter, I would have to buy the materials, cut them down to size, package them, advertise, process orders, and then pack and ship them, the profit on the kit would be so high as to place it much closer to the cost of wooden framed looms. Plus, I don't want to do all that as a business. That would require quite a lot of work just to put one kit together.



One of the major benefits of the PVC Loom design is the economy of making it yourself. The only way to maintain that economy is to provide people with the list of materials and have them gather them together. I think that anyone who thinks to do this as a possible business venture will quickly find out that it is just not worth it.



Another possibility I thought of was to have classes for people in how to build a PVC Loom. For that I could supply materials and then use the class time to put the looms together.

1 day, 21 hours ago

My guess is that you did not express the idea properly. (That is if it did not win the first time around.) Proof of concept and prototyping score big points in my book.



What I would do is actually make a kit if you wanted to make it commercial. With instructions on how to build it. The instructions are free, buying the kit with all the parts optional.



That or somehow split it into easy to assemble sections that are easy to ship. So the end user has to do only minimal work. AKA Doing it Ikea style.

1 day, 23 hours ago

On May 14, 2008, 4:21 pm siddey said:



Nice work. How about weaving a Cambrian *cough* Vencorps, rug for the team?

Well, the PVC Loom only can weave 24" wide and is not strong enough for rugs. But, I do have future plans for a Unistrut loom that can weave up to 5 feet wide, or more. Unistrut is solid steel and can be put together like a toy construction set. I would love to weave that rug some day.



BTW, I submitted this as an actual idea for voting next week. Here is the link.



PVC Loom

2 days, 3 hours ago

Nice work. How about weaving a Cambrian *cough* Vencorps, rug for the team?

2 days, 9 hours ago

Thank you for your replies. I like this idea more and more. And, to show you how far this idea is in the development stage, I posted some photos of the first PVC Loom prototype. I really like the idea of giving this idea out for free.

2 days, 20 hours ago

Many yes-es to your post.



Yes, CH is narrowly focused â€" but a bit in the sense of a magnifiying lens focusing sunlight on a bug.



Yes, an idea can become successful even if not a winner here â€" it depends on the competition that week and the personal vagaries of the voters. (Witness the recent, wide disparity in comments on a canopied canoe).



Yes, tech ideas are more readily accepted here, but one winner was an idea for bee keeping software, very earth-based.



Yes, not many of us are fluent in crafts and textiles, but feel free to s t r e t c h our envelopes and see what happens.



Yes, we are mainly a bunch of idea people with many differing opinions. Well, many of us are Execution people too. And different ideas is necessary. There’s a quote on here somewhere: if you always agree with me, you’re expendable.



Yes, projects are still possible even if they get a low number of votes; just push it in Forums, PMs, Bazar, and Businesses. Never say die.



Absolutely, yes, an idea for a PVC loom might not â€" MIGHT not â€" get traction here, but it would get intelligent feed back. Absolutely yes, that doesn’t mean it’s a bad idea. And absolutely yes, in the right "crowd" it would be a big hit.



Yes, the target market is very narrow. Yes, you stand a good chance of cornering that [narrow] market by advertising the site in knitting and weaving publications [and web sites].



And finally, where I should have started and cut to the chase: You have the idea for a crowd-sourced website for crafts people. CH 3.0



Submit it, dammit!



By the way, your post was 2 minutes old when I began composing this off line and when I got back there were already all these answers so, Y E A H, you've got a winner here even though you submitted it left-handed.

2 days, 20 hours ago

As for the social networking things... it seems like it could be a Facebook group... or something on Myspace.

2 days, 20 hours ago

On May 13, 2008, 10:34 pm DaveH said:



Also, if the plans for my loom were given out free to the world, would there be a market for anyone to actually buy a copy as a printed book?

There might. I understand that parts of the German Wikipedia are being sold in a print version.



There are many possible ways to do...

2 days, 21 hours ago

On May 13, 2008, 10:12 pm DaveH said:



I could create a social networking website for crafts people, as them to help me finish the design, and possibly make money selling advertising on the site.

Sounds like a mighty fine idea to me, unless there is already a pre-existing social networking site covering this subject matter that you could;



a.) partner with (maybe in return for commission on sales of ready-made product) or



b.) join up and become an active community member, then work with your new found friends to perfect the build, give them one for free (they'll be your biggest advocates) and sell others via Ebay.



And it's likely that there are a few other options you could follow as well.....



Either way, maybe it would be good to put a very quick market survey questionnaire together and find some kindred spirits online that you can convince to fill it out for you to validate the desirability of your product amongst the market segment.

2 days, 21 hours ago

Hey - thanks for your reply. I think I'll make it a submission.



Also, I'm a little new to the whole wikinomics thing. I am currently reading the book and I find it to be fascinating. Does anyone know how such a site would generate income? Would it be from advertising? Also, if the plans for my loom were given out free to the world, would there be a market for anyone to actually buy a copy as a printed book?

2 days, 21 hours ago

It sounds like a good idea to me. If you framed you're idea for the loom like this in an actual idea submission I'd probably give it four or five stars.



And if you are interested, you could explore your idea and share it with the world at Wikiversity, btw. Just create a learning project.



http://en.wikiversit...ikiversity:Main_Page

2 days, 21 hours ago

Greetings,



With such an unlimited source of ideas and people possible from the Internet, how valid is the voting that takes place in here? After all, we are mainly a bunch of idea people with many differing opinions. Something that appeals to me may not appeal to you.



I'm wondering about the success of a really great idea that happens to get few if any votes in here. Are projects still possible even if they get a low number of votes?



As an example, I'll tell you about one of my pet ideas. I am a weaver and I have invented a way to construct a very complex weaving Loom using PVC Pipe from Home Depot. It costs but a fraction of what modern furniture-quality looms sell for. But, I seriously doubt that such an idea would get any traction with the members here. But, that doesn't mean it is a bad idea. In the right "crowd" it would be a big hit.



I had been planning on finishing my book on how to build my PVC Loom and sell it on Amazon. But, not having time to finish it, plus needing people to test the design further makes me think that I should give the idea away in the true spirit of wikinomics. I could create a social networking website for crafts people, as them to help me finish the design, and possibly make money selling advertising on the site. The target market is very narrow, but I stand a good chance of cornering that market by advertising the site in knitting and weaving publications.



I would appreciate any comments you may have on this.



Thanks.

1 day, 18 hours ago

I'm putting this question in front of the line, thank you...



/ooper

http://www.socialthumbs.com' target='_blank'>http://www.socialthumbs.com

2 days, 8 hours ago

daradishman - when are you coming in to meet us then?

2 days, 19 hours ago

Yeah, like, CH can't close the Calgary office, because I'm planning on working there.

2 days, 19 hours ago

I still vote not to limit to software only, as ooper suggests. Most will probably agree that we do get bogged down with alot of crap. I proposed some mechanisms before to quickly cull out the crap so we can save time and focus on the good stuff (things like qualifying rounds and not insisting on taking the best five or ten ideas when there are only three good ones...). Also recognize that there are some reasonable ideas that can be moved aside for the submitter to work on and make more competitive (while stripping the crap out completely).



I checked out Kluster right after they launched. They seemed to be going for the same thing as CH. Their interface sucked (forced me from Opera to FF and more). Also, their points seemed to have two or more needless (and confusing) layers before you got converted to money. I know you can't pay money for all mundane activities, but it should be limited to one layer of points with a clear system of how one can eventually earn money.



One thing I was confused about at Kluster was the points that you invest in ideas. As I understood it, you had points for being good (or something like that), and you could "invest" them at your discretion in ideas (and comments on ideas? very weird). If the ideas won, you win a small percentage based on the investment. This is investing points to win real money? The majority of members will not have sufficient real money to play VC games. They should be interacting and investing creative energy. Betting points on someone's idea might help identify the crowds' taste, but I think it could distract from the real creative process. In fact, one of my suggestions for CH was to reduce the bonus for voting on all ideas (no matter how crappy some are), and incentivize constructive interaction about an idea with points, only for constructive comments (and nothing for or against saying "you go girl" or "cool man".



Anyway, Kluster was (and probably still is) a mad dog's breakfast. It seems that CH will stay miles ahead until they sort out that nasty interface and all the cute analogies for points, bozo buttons, and click betting.

2 days, 21 hours ago

So VenCorps is the elusive CH3. Aah, I see



When does this version of the site cease to exist?

2 days, 22 hours ago

how this is developing is quite interesting



Cambrian house is a pretty neat company.

3 days, 1 hour ago

On May 13, 2008, 3:33 pm ooper said:

but please make the plan transparent for the members who put their ideas and creative energy out in the open.

Amen to that.

Promise!

3 days, 1 hour ago

Thanks to everyone for all today's posts in this thread! This certainly clears up a few things... I, too, wish CH well, and hope these developments do indeed prove to be positive changes.



(I just wrote Gord an email, asking about some of these points, before checking here...)

3 days, 2 hours ago

Ah. And special thanks to TechGuy for answering 'most' of my questions, and Blue for validating them

3 days, 2 hours ago

I read Interviewable's and Brendan's article as well. Thanks, guys. Beyond the hearsay, can VenCorp exist without CH and it's current community? On that note, I am with the notion that the two will continue to live hand in hand? --I say this with caution, of course.

3 days, 3 hours ago

So I read the article that Blue provided. It seems to me that CH's "sweet spot" should be in software development --site development to be more specific. In my mind, this is a very short window, but one that can be awesomely successful if (and only if) executed correctly.



I'd start by axeing any non-software "ideas," personally...



The community that wins is the one that develops the best relationship with its members and provides the best infrastructure to execute.



Personally, I am sticking with CH because there is truly a sense of community that is generally listened to. VenCorps is a good example of this and I am looking forward to participating in either end of the spectrum.



Make sure VenCorps provides an API and that all the legal crap has been worked out...



/ooper

http://www.socialthumbs.com

3 days, 4 hours ago

but please make the plan transparent for the members who put their ideas and creative energy out in the open.

Amen to that.

3 days, 4 hours ago

CH staff must have been sweating over all this. I hope it will work for the better and thrive after all.



Please keep us informed about the plans for CH 3.0, name changes, procedure changes, new time-lines and all related matters.



TG answered all of the original thread questions, EXCEPT the title question: "What is CambrianHouse's business model?". So, we know what it is not, but no one is answering the question. Times are very busy; so, sort out the changes first, but please make the plan transparent for the members who put their ideas and creative energy out in the open.

3 days, 6 hours ago

On May 13, 2008, 12:41 pm Blue said:



Tell Devo if he was a bit more friendly to Jazz and i at the gym, he'd already have a bottle axe.

In my defence, I had just finished working out. If you guys hadn't said anything I would have looked right at you without noticing you were there.

3 days, 7 hours ago

Tell Devo if he was a bit more friendly to Jazz and i at the gym, he'd already have a bottle axe.

3 days, 7 hours ago

On May 13, 2008, 12:06 pm Blue said:



There is something going on, but it is a good thing, not a bad thing. It was not properly positioned on TC. We're filling the gap that the Current CH site has - funding your idea. Read.

Good to hear.... Maybe CH can get a subdomain on this site (one of my personal favourites!), so everybody has a place for up-to-the-minute updates!

Although DonG, you are always welcome to raid the hoodie closet

Oh, and Devo wants a BottleAxe....

3 days, 7 hours ago

Any press is good press, right?

3 days, 7 hours ago

I want a hoodie too! I have Cambros, will burn...



Thanks for the comment Blue. I was hoping that was it.

3 days, 7 hours ago

There is something going on, but it is a good thing, not a bad thing. It was not properly positioned on TC. We're filling the gap that the Current CH site has - funding your idea. Read.







Although DonG, you are always welcome to raid the hoodie closet

3 days, 8 hours ago

Will we see a "run" on the Cambros bank?



The Queen says...

2 days, 1 hour ago

The Square Advertising Game will resemble the Jeopardy game. The dollar amounts will be $1, $5, $10, $15, and $20 for the single version and $2, $8, $12, $17, and $25 for the double version. A player selects Web Design for $10 and if their question is correct, they will receive $10 off from that advertiser. The square will read "You have won a $10 certificate from Web Designs 4 You." The block will stay open, in a case a player wants to later visit the site. If a player decides to visit the site, their time will pause. When they play the game, it will timed just like the real Jeopardy game. There will even be a couple of commercial breaks, in which companies can advertise for certain amount of time. They will be charged by the second and there will only be two minutes and two seconds worth of commercials in each break. Players can compete with others. I know you can download the template for Jeopardy for non-commercial needs. Therefore, I guess I would need permission to have merchants pay to have their ads appear on the squares. If any of you are aware that this already exists, please let me know